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for a tax increase although they actually would be voting for a tax cut but it is amazing the way it's been framed by both conservative groups and the white house, interestingly. i do think that there are a few things in there in the details if you think about the estate tax change, the changes to dividends and capital gains, and the fact that mostly it avoids spending cuts and pushes this down to just another couple months and there are no entitlement reforms in there. i think those will be tough sells for republicans but whether or not john boehner is going to allow this to come to the floor with such an overwhelming vote in the senate is the real question. >> all right. thanks so much. >> thanks, mara. >>> and joining me live now democratic congressman adam schiff of california. a member of the house appropriations and intelligence committees. happy new year and thank you for being here. >> happy new year to you. >> house republican leader eric canter says no decision has been made on whether the house will vote on the measure that passed the senate earlier this morning. do you expe
for a tax increase although they actually would be voting for a tax cut but it is amazing the way it's been framed by both conservative groups and the white house, interestingly. i do think that there are a few things in there in the details if you think about the estate tax change, the changes to dividends and capital gains, and the fact that mostly it avoids spending cuts and pushes this down to just another couple months and there are no entitlement reforms in there. i think those will be...
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at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a vote by which the only way that vote would get over the legislative would be with a majority of democrats. he doesn't want to do that to preserve his job. once we go over the cliff, we can possibly do more of a bungee jump if we reverse the damage quickly. in that vote republicans don't have to vote for a tax increase, which to me is absolutely ridiculous in terms of serving the economy and the country, but i guess the politics makes sense to some of these guys. >>> jared bernstein, thank you. the storm is coming. look at that storm, the symptom is coming behind you. >> you weren't talking about a fiscal
at that point republicans can support a deal without voting for a tax increase, in fact, because tax rates have automatically reset higher, they can say now we're voting for a big tax cut for the broad middle class. >> is that what's going to ensure that speaker boehner is not in danger is it. >> right. i mean, that's where someone earlier said, you know, he's got to figure out whether he's for the country or for his own job. in many ways he's preserving his own job by not pushing a...
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as the guy that is the tax cutter. has he tored in the republicans -- factored in the republicans have control of the budget with the debt ceiling? >> i think the president is beginning to see the long-term consequences if we do increase taxes. we maybe ought to do a little celebrating here. democrats are now on board that 98% of bush's tax cuts were a good thing for america and for the economy. let's at least chalk that up as a win. i agree with senator toomey, right now unfortunately only president obama is the one man that can sign a bill into law and without him agreeing to sign a bill everybody's taxes go up. we are in a position of how do we limit the damage and i think the best way of doing that is continue to talk about what we need to do is grow the economy and that is something president obama hasn't shown any interest in doing. certainly hasn't concentrated on it in his first term. >> sean: and senator toomey, it is a little frustrating as we watch this frankly reckless irresponsible political positioning go
as the guy that is the tax cutter. has he tored in the republicans -- factored in the republicans have control of the budget with the debt ceiling? >> i think the president is beginning to see the long-term consequences if we do increase taxes. we maybe ought to do a little celebrating here. democrats are now on board that 98% of bush's tax cuts were a good thing for america and for the economy. let's at least chalk that up as a win. i agree with senator toomey, right now unfortunately...
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also an estate tax. there was some back and forth late in the day whether there was going to change but the framework had the estate tax at $10 million exception per couple with additional inheritance at 40%. tax credits for stimulus. business tax credits and a doc fix stopping 27% reduction in payments to medicare providers using spending cuts as offsets. in addition to that, ed, you are saying the sequester which is the across-the-board cuts would be essentially put off for a couple of months. >> delayed. >> and that sets up the second fiscal cliff battle that washington will deal with and that is over the debt ceiling. explain that for folks who may not be following it. >> exactly. and you are right to point that out because these are two more battles really colliding with one another. kicking the can down the road, both parties on the sequester. two months from now we back here dealing with again whether or not they can come up with more spending cuts, more tax increases according to how the presiden
also an estate tax. there was some back and forth late in the day whether there was going to change but the framework had the estate tax at $10 million exception per couple with additional inheritance at 40%. tax credits for stimulus. business tax credits and a doc fix stopping 27% reduction in payments to medicare providers using spending cuts as offsets. in addition to that, ed, you are saying the sequester which is the across-the-board cuts would be essentially put off for a couple of...
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take the tax issue off. give the president his tax hikes on the rich now. fight him on everything else when taxes aren't part of the conversation. fight him on everything else in six weeks when the debt ceiling is hit or perhaps it ends up 8 weeks, 12 weeks, whenever that fight happens and do that. i do think that mcconnell, that's where he wants to be. can he get there in the next 24 hours? that's what we don't know. >> tom brokaw? >> it seems to me that the middle class will have a date to the prom. everybody's talking about protecting the middle class here. so i think this deal will probably get done around the middle-class tax cuts. it's at what level. is it $400,000 or $250,000 or some other number? which is going to be critically important. a lot of people don't realize in the large urban and suburban areas in america, $250,000 doesn't make you rich. two kids in college at $60,000. if you're a boomer, you may have a dependent parent, you're spending another $20,000, $25,000 on. we have to have the definition of what is the middle class. to david's poi
take the tax issue off. give the president his tax hikes on the rich now. fight him on everything else when taxes aren't part of the conversation. fight him on everything else in six weeks when the debt ceiling is hit or perhaps it ends up 8 weeks, 12 weeks, whenever that fight happens and do that. i do think that mcconnell, that's where he wants to be. can he get there in the next 24 hours? that's what we don't know. >> tom brokaw? >> it seems to me that the middle class will have...
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but those two things will offset the estate tax, as i understand it, is a big sticking point. obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its current rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swallow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. this is flo. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're always there for me. shh! i'll get you a rental car. i could also use an umbrella. fall in love with progressive's claims service. >>> welcome back to "hardball." what will a deal look like, if there is one, and who's going to wind up giving up more on the tax cuts for wealthy americans. harry reid says $250,000 is a threshold, but that may not hold. joining me now, josh green. josh, for the markets, for the business community, whether it's 250,000, i know it's a big deal for politicia
but those two things will offset the estate tax, as i understand it, is a big sticking point. obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its current rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swallow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. this is flo. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're...
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not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made, rev, is a very good one. the president did move with entitlements and it did anger a cig n significant portion of his base. but the president agrees that you can't set this nation's economy on a healthy path that cease going to take care of our deficit and make it a managinin bart of gdp. he knows we can't asked the republicans to raise it 1.2, 1.3 trillion in revenue. he's reached out and made cig nif kant concessions and the response to that was nothing. it is pathetic. >> jaret, let me ask you, if we go over the cliff, what ps? is there not an immediate im
not through any tax breaks or anything like that. but through getting back to work and getting their paychecks back up. that's what they want to do. >> now, governor, you have had to deal with people of opposing parties. you've had to compromise. you've seen them compromise. that's what government does. but when you get inflexible people that seem to not understand the pain of the ordinary american, how do you break this gridlock? >> well, it's very hard. and the point you made,...
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and as for the tax withholding, the higher tax rates for people through the income tax code, treasury could put off delaying -- taking more money out of people's paycheck bus they are not inclined to do so unless a deal is imminent on capitol hill. >> the markets were unsettled last week with all the indecision in washington. what are we looking at on wednesday when wall street opens again, if we have no fiscal cliff deal? >> i talked to independent economist, mark zandi, he said if there is no deal on wednesday, expect a slow bleed in financial markets, maybe 50 to 100 points lost on the dow per day for a couple of weeks, if in mid-january it becomes clear that even going over the cliff hasn't made a deal more likely, expect a huge selloff, perhaps 800 points rivalling what happened when the first t.a.r.p. bill went down in the fall of 2008 during the financial crisis, kate. >> john harwood, thanks so much. and there will be much more on all of this tight on a live special report on cnbc. it's titled "america's economy held hostage," that's at 8:00 eastern time. >>> overseas, this ha
and as for the tax withholding, the higher tax rates for people through the income tax code, treasury could put off delaying -- taking more money out of people's paycheck bus they are not inclined to do so unless a deal is imminent on capitol hill. >> the markets were unsettled last week with all the indecision in washington. what are we looking at on wednesday when wall street opens again, if we have no fiscal cliff deal? >> i talked to independent economist, mark zandi, he said if...
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people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things that would be right away in a negative impact would be unemployment benefits and 2 million americans would see the unemployment benefits and that would hurt the economy and that would hurt these people that are relying on this and the unemployment insurance has been seen as economic stimulus to get hands into the money of people who need it and they were things that actually get spread over the course of 2013 if there is no fix that is actually done and it is possible for congress to go back and fix things and talking about the increase of tax rates and there will also be spending cuts to gover
people making 40 to $65,000 get a $2,000 tax hike and anyone, would see a $14,000 tax bump. where else would americans see the sting? talk to me about medicare and unemployment benefits. >> this whole metaphor we've been using about a fiscal cliff probably isn't the right one to be used. after all, if you go over a cliff, you usually don't get to live to tell about it unless you're batman or spider-man, but there are things that actually would happen right away and one of those things...
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but those two things will offset the estate tax, as i understand it, is a big sticking point. obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its kurnt rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swal slow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often han
but those two things will offset the estate tax, as i understand it, is a big sticking point. obama wants to see it go up. the senate republicans will insist that it stays at its kurnt rate. this is what happens when you make deals with very little time to spare. you basically force your respective party forces to swal slow what you give him. >> thank you. we'll be back in a moment. this is "hardball" the place for politics. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've...
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but it will include the education tax credit and the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. these are refundable tax credits that affect mostly low-income people. so that will be on the table. but, you know, the republicans, the disdain that i have seen for poor people, from people who are struggling, like senior citizens on medicare and social security, for low-income people and the women, infant, and children program, we saw the republicans last week vote to spending cuts that would literally take food out of the mouths of hungry babies and in this country, you want to talk about crisis, fiscal crisis, et cetera, a crisis is that one out of five american children is hungry at some point during the year. that is just immoral. and they voted to even cut that. and so i agree with you. i think we have to talk about the consequences for real people. middle class, and as the president said tonight, those who aspire to the middle class. and that would include the unemployed right now, and we're going to extend unemployment insurance benefits. >> yeah, that's critical. gop source
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lawmakers extended the tax cuts. >> both houses have passed a package of tax relief. >>>> republicans say no higher tax rates on the rich. no tax hikes on anyone. >> we need to start cutting spending now. >> and a separate debate during 2011 republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's pulse of debt ceiling. a last-minute compromise, both sides agreed to trillions of dollars in spending cuts and another $1.20 billion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional supercommittee. if the supercommittee cannot reach a deal automatic across- the-board cuts would go into effect starting january 2013. the exact moment when those extended bush tax cuts would expire. going over the fiscal cliff could send the economy into another recession. this is a live look from the white house. present obama is expected to speak in just a few minutes from now. as soon as he speaks, we will bring it to you live. "one life to live" and "all my children" may be coming back. >> new information about a mexican vacation marilyn monroe took 50 years ago. >> how d
lawmakers extended the tax cuts. >> both houses have passed a package of tax relief. >>>> republicans say no higher tax rates on the rich. no tax hikes on anyone. >> we need to start cutting spending now. >> and a separate debate during 2011 republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nation's pulse of debt ceiling. a last-minute compromise, both sides agreed to trillions of dollars in spending cuts and another $1.20 billion...
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with $600 billion in tax hikes set to take effect new year's day. senior advisers said the president was set to make a small offer with the full support of reid and pelosi. nbc news has learned that a previous offered made by the president, the one that involved a tax increase for only those earning more than $400 is off the table. advisers say that was part of a bigger proposal that speaker boehner did not accept. it looks like the current proposal goes back to raising taxes on those who make more than $250,000. the proposal known as plan b didn't work. it will remain to be seen if the smaller plan will. either way the countdown to the if you year could be very costly. >> i'm hopeful that a deal will avoid the worst parts of a fiscal live cliff. >> the tax increases need to be averted, avoided. they can be. i think in the end we'll get a deal. the question is the timing of that. >> according to administration officials, senior white house staff will hold a conference call with some of the country's top business leaders within the half hour to brief
with $600 billion in tax hikes set to take effect new year's day. senior advisers said the president was set to make a small offer with the full support of reid and pelosi. nbc news has learned that a previous offered made by the president, the one that involved a tax increase for only those earning more than $400 is off the table. advisers say that was part of a bigger proposal that speaker boehner did not accept. it looks like the current proposal goes back to raising taxes on those who make...
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the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for them? >> reporter: okay. we have unemployment at 7.7% last month and mainly went down because people gave up looking for work and jdropped out of th job market and out of work six months or longer. 4.8 million americans, they're the folks worried the most about unemployment benefits not extended after the first of the year. >> as we look at that number, that's staggering for so many. we have a "the washington post" poll that indicates 74% of americans support raising taxes on the top earners in this country. with that support t
the tax policy center. the annual income from somebody in the $50,000 to $75,000, about a $2,400 increase. jumping ahead to $100,000 to $200,000, the average tax increase, $6,600. tacking at that great divide of the wealthy, over $250,000, at least a $11,000 tax hike. over $1 million, more than $254,000. >> hampton, looking at that number, that's for those americans working right now. there are still struggling americans, millions looking for work and what's the fiscal cliff mean for...
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, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the house it has a much better chance of attracting republican support. if mitch mcconnell aligns republicans and tells everyone to oppose it in the senate republican conference, the chances of it succeeding in the house are pretty low. >> sam, is this the end of the road for grover norquist and his pledge? >> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other
, not a rise in taxes? >> chuck schumer brought up a good point. a key moment of these entire negotiations came on wednesday night when president obama calls mitch mcconnell, bring the republican leader in the process. what happens now is very important. as sam said, they'll be negotiating today and over the weekend in the senate. and if this $250,000 comes to the floor, if a few republicans attach themselves to what reid and obama agree to, then that means when it pose gophers to the...
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the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel the brunt of the fiscal cliff fallout. the dow fell on friday after the deal failed the night before. last week fitch warned it may downgrade the u.s. credit rating if congress cannot reach a deal. some lawmakers are angling for the best political outcountry. >> when i listen to the president, i think he's eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years, and he gets to blame republicans for it. implts joining me are off and o
the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel...
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if you make $100,000, your taxes will go up by $4600. the come bination of tax hikes d deep cuts could end up like k like this. ore the cliff in a free fall. whisky and cigarettes in hand. tonight, we've got the view from both sides of the aisle. democrat from arizona and republican from wisconsin. earlier, i spoke to the arizona congressman and asked him what he would support a scaled down deal that the president pushed for on friday. >> yeah, i would. i think that's realistic. i think we're at a point after, after the implosion by boehner and the party not to be able to come to an agreement with president obama. that we're talking about a short fix relative to a new congress dealing with the complexity and a comprehensive package of long-term, of fiscal policy in this country. that's what many of us have asked for, that everything has been to be on the table. that it has to be an honest and open discussion. >> you just said that everything should be on the table. the president said that everyone needs to give a little bit to reach a gr
if you make $100,000, your taxes will go up by $4600. the come bination of tax hikes d deep cuts could end up like k like this. ore the cliff in a free fall. whisky and cigarettes in hand. tonight, we've got the view from both sides of the aisle. democrat from arizona and republican from wisconsin. earlier, i spoke to the arizona congressman and asked him what he would support a scaled down deal that the president pushed for on friday. >> yeah, i would. i think that's realistic. i think...
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these are people that pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> he acts as a character witness against himself in this video. he compounded every stereotype in this campaign. in that one fumble clip. >> the only thing we can do here is play newt gingrich. we have to play the skewed media. four out of five fumbles were republican? i guess they were. >> that's just deflection. you don't want to deal with the truth here. >> busboys should not be allowed to have video cameras when way they are waiting tables. who took that? >> it was somebody in the kitchen. >> the first spot is great and how perfect could it end if mitt romney ended up getting 47% of the vote. >> exactly right. >> that was perfect. but he didn't want to be president anyway. >> and if you believe that, i gotten years of your life back for you. >> and a million dollars later he tells me that. >> well, we are going to do this again tomorrow, but we are going ♪ aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. p
these are people that pay no income tax. so my job is not to worry about those people. >> he acts as a character witness against himself in this video. he compounded every stereotype in this campaign. in that one fumble clip. >> the only thing we can do here is play newt gingrich. we have to play the skewed media. four out of five fumbles were republican? i guess they were. >> that's just deflection. you don't want to deal with the truth here. >> busboys should not be...
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the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock ticking? >> if you don't get an agreement, it's going to hurt both parties. somebody may have the advantage today and tomorrow in the news headlines, if this doesn't happen, it hurts the president's legacy, it hardens the lines between them. this is not, as joe said, complicated to solve over the short term. long term, a little more complicated. if they can't get through this, it makes it much more difficult over the long term. >> to both of you here, you heard something the president said. david gregory pushed back on the presi
the payroll tax holiday. maybe you don't give the whole amount, just part of it. it adds up to $200 billion so the economy continues to grow. then the debt reduction is raised by february. >> mr. davis. he started his comment about solving this saying you have to take the politics out of it. it's not possible at this point. even though the deal, everything you heard from him, you may have agreed with and go along with it. how are you going to take the politics out of it with the clock...
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>> no, it doesn't raise taxes. those tax increases will go into effect. there's no bill before the congress that raises taxes. there are many bills that are trying to stop those taxes in various forms. and let me be clear. i think the president's plan is an absolute disaster. a lot of those wealthy folks earning over $200,000 aren't even folks. they're small businesses, filing under sub-chapter "s," some 84% of net business income is affected by this tax increase. that's the income they use to create and expand two-thirds of the jobs in our economy. that is an absolutely insane economic policy, but that's at the core of what the president is trying to do. the cbo is warning us, $200,000 jobs will be destroyed by this policy. but if we can't stop it, the best we can do is offer every warning we can, and then try and save as many other taxpayers as possible. >> do you think the white house should add a little sweetener to the deal for some conservatives? for example, stalling the sequestration cuts and extending the current estate tax rates? >> oh, i don't
>> no, it doesn't raise taxes. those tax increases will go into effect. there's no bill before the congress that raises taxes. there are many bills that are trying to stop those taxes in various forms. and let me be clear. i think the president's plan is an absolute disaster. a lot of those wealthy folks earning over $200,000 aren't even folks. they're small businesses, filing under sub-chapter "s," some 84% of net business income is affected by this tax increase. that's the...
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tax. we are hearing that in the talks on the fiscal cliff there may be a permanent fix to the alternative minimum tax. so it protects the middle class from his alternative tax system which basically was even nactd 1969 so the rich pay some kind of tax. but it's not indeksd to inflation every year. congress has to enact a patch to that. but without it h ann r block is putting out a warning say 28 million of you would have to pay the alternative minimum tax. it's $86 billion. h & r block says if you are expect a tax refund next april if you make $85,000 and you have got two kids. with this tax your refund check could turn into a $1,400 tax bill. but even without the fiscal cliff deal, here is what people's tax rates would look like if there was no deal. you will see the income levels to the left, the current tax bill owed and if the fiscal cliff hits you can see the increase there. the difference is pretty substantial. even down to the $250,000. separate from all this, in health reform we ar
tax. we are hearing that in the talks on the fiscal cliff there may be a permanent fix to the alternative minimum tax. so it protects the middle class from his alternative tax system which basically was even nactd 1969 so the rich pay some kind of tax. but it's not indeksd to inflation every year. congress has to enact a patch to that. but without it h ann r block is putting out a warning say 28 million of you would have to pay the alternative minimum tax. it's $86 billion. h & r block says...
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the last time they finished the deal the tax deal we got a couple years ago that extended tax rates, cut the social security tax by a couple points. all of that ongoing right now and that is really the last hope we have to get something done before the fiscal cliff. >> does the minority leader and the senate, do they concur with the house of representatives. because it's eventually going to have to go through the house? >> absolutely. they would remaining in contact. just to make sure that the house would be agreeable to whatever the senate minority leader put out. democrats would have to be apprised of that as well but any agreement is probably going to need democrats in the house of representatives. the house is also working on a number of procedural maneuvers tonight to pave the way for quick votes over the next few days. they are not actively involved in the negotiations but if these two are to get a deal, vice president and senate minority leader the house could do a quick vote. >> two other things, first, if they don't do a deal, what can the average american, expect as far as
the last time they finished the deal the tax deal we got a couple years ago that extended tax rates, cut the social security tax by a couple points. all of that ongoing right now and that is really the last hope we have to get something done before the fiscal cliff. >> does the minority leader and the senate, do they concur with the house of representatives. because it's eventually going to have to go through the house? >> absolutely. they would remaining in contact. just to make...
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republicans want a higher income tax threshold. republicans want to keep the estate tax from going up. and there's no agreement on what to do about automatic spending cuts. those are set to go into effect on january 2. >>> now to a deadly bus crash on a slick highway in eastern oregon. a tour bus careened off an icy section of interstate 84 yesterday morning and tumbled down a steep embankment, killing 9 and injuring more than 20 others. the bus was traveling to vancouver from las vegas. the driver survived but was too badly hurt to speak with police. >>> here is your new year's eve forecast. up to a foot of mountain snow in the southern rockies. 5 inches from kansas to southern illinois. thunderstorms from much of texas, oklahoma city, little rock and memphis. rain and mountain snow in the pacific northwest. flurries from michigan to northern new england. >> chilly from the west coast to the midwest and northeast. 20s in the northern rockies. just 2 degrees in fargo and 14 in minneapolis. 30s from chicago to new york. so just bund
republicans want a higher income tax threshold. republicans want to keep the estate tax from going up. and there's no agreement on what to do about automatic spending cuts. those are set to go into effect on january 2. >>> now to a deadly bus crash on a slick highway in eastern oregon. a tour bus careened off an icy section of interstate 84 yesterday morning and tumbled down a steep embankment, killing 9 and injuring more than 20 others. the bus was traveling to vancouver from las...
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. >>> nine days left before you face a new year with higher taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho republican mike crapo was taken to jail in alexandria virginia after midnight. he was stopped for running a red light and charged with driving under the influence. the senator has issued an apology. he was released on $1,000 bond and he has a court date. >>> christmas, two days away, and for much of the country it's going to be a white one. heavy snowfall has blanketed several states up to five feet of snow is expected. snow is also falling back east as well. like lake effect snow has blanketed areas around cleveland and buffalo. high winds are threatening to delay flights in n
. >>> nine days left before you face a new year with higher taxes. apparently a fiscal cliff solution is not wrapped up as a gift under your christmas tree. lawmakers are home for the holidays. house speaker john boehner is in ohio, president obama is in his native hawaii. you'll hear about a last ditch effort that may happen after the holiday. that story just a few moments away here as well. >> a united states senator was arrested for drunk driving early sunday morning. idaho...
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>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world have been cutting their tax rates. >> we grew faster when we had higher tax rates. >> let's just do it another reality check on this. which is that, whether we go over the cliff or have a scaled-down deal, we've got two things looming, a debt ceiling in probably two months which republicans will no doubt use as leverage. we still don't have a grand bargain that deals with deficit and debt by taking on tax reform and entitlement reform. what rational reason, stephen, first you, should we have that that other kick the can to another situation we're about to go off a cliff would produce any different result from a new congress? >> i'
>> i think raising the capital gains tax, raising the dividend tax, raising the estate tax, raising taxes on small businesses, is a disaster for the economy, it's too fragile. >> that's not true at all. all the research shows that actually the economic activity is not that sensitive to tax rates at the top of the income distribution -- >> that's not true, it's the opposite. >> i'm sorry -- >>> the economy's highly sensitive, that's why countries around the world...
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the stage and there is the tax and that is very disheartening that the western clothes in the security council start to refuse. then there has to consider saying that yes there is missing. but you must they conclude come on the overall context of what is going on in syria and why people the result that there was that this it's absolutely unacceptable and this logic might be full of this logic why do those through a very dangerous situation not only in the middle east but in other parts of the world. who would begin to. want to qualify terrorist as. bed terrorist and acceptable terrorists. still to come out from afghanistan and into the gulf britain planning a military boost in the oil rich region later this hour we'll look at what's at stake for the u.k. in the gulf and where this new build up might be headed boss. no wind in sight for the trouble in europe as thousands of greeks in the spaniards again take to the streets in protest against suffocating austerity cuts. before we get to all of that though it's been a heartbreaking week of farewells in newtown connecticut where all twenty
the stage and there is the tax and that is very disheartening that the western clothes in the security council start to refuse. then there has to consider saying that yes there is missing. but you must they conclude come on the overall context of what is going on in syria and why people the result that there was that this it's absolutely unacceptable and this logic might be full of this logic why do those through a very dangerous situation not only in the middle east but in other parts of the...
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we stand right now at three days and counting until that new year's deadline when taxes would go up for all u.s. taxpayers and steep spending cuts would kick in across the board. nicole collins has the latest. >> reporter: john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house, which brought the president and congressional leaders together the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought the country closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> when the president calls congressional leaders to the white house, it's all political theatre or they have a deal. not that it's all political theatre. >> this is not for show but a last-ditch effort by the president to bring congressional leader together to try to get a small package at least, a small deal together before the new year. >> reporter: the president called the meeting as lawmakers pointed fingers in this high- stakes game of chicken. >> the republicans who are holding hostage the middle class in america society wealthy don't have to pay their fair share. >> we need two words: presidential leadership on not jus
we stand right now at three days and counting until that new year's deadline when taxes would go up for all u.s. taxpayers and steep spending cuts would kick in across the board. nicole collins has the latest. >> reporter: john boehner back in washington immediately heading to the white house, which brought the president and congressional leaders together the first time since november, but it's unclear if it brought the country closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> when the...
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five days away from the tax hike. as you probably know, the president pulled the plug on his holiday trip to hawaii and arrived back in washington after 11:00 this morning in hopes of locking in taxes as they are right now for all but the wealgyest 2 percewealgy e wealthiest 2%. the house is telling us no, that is not the case. i got jessica yellen standing by and we have dana barb who is standing by and they are there on capitol hill. what is the mix up between sending a plan and not sending a plan by the president? >> hi, john. the bottom line is both sides want to take action and before senat senator mcconnell decides whether to filibuster the measure and whether the other republicans in the party will filibuster, they have to see the details in the proposal. will there be an estate tax provision? how will unemployment which is expected to be extended? will it be paid for? what spending measures will be in this and spending cuts, etc. there will be more details spelled out and where will that come from? will it com
five days away from the tax hike. as you probably know, the president pulled the plug on his holiday trip to hawaii and arrived back in washington after 11:00 this morning in hopes of locking in taxes as they are right now for all but the wealgyest 2 percewealgy e wealthiest 2%. the house is telling us no, that is not the case. i got jessica yellen standing by and we have dana barb who is standing by and they are there on capitol hill. what is the mix up between sending a plan and not sending a...
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a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to have the republicans reject it. we know president obama called the top four congressional leaders last night on his way back from hawaii. tomorrow afternoon at the white house will be a meeting between the president and those top four congressional leaders and earlier the top senate democrat expressed concern or frustration saying you cannot legislate with yourself. >> the republicans in the house have left town. the negotiations between the president and the speaker have fallen apart as they have for the last three and a half years. we have tried mightily to get something done. >> now, perhaps in an effort
a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to...
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and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show republicans really backing down for their no-tax position and allowing a rate increase of some kind, that said, i'm still very skeptical that they can get to a point that can get all sides agreeing to something and it's something that the republicans can agree to in the house. you know, there's a very, very -- a slim chance of that happening, but if anything happens, it's going to be a small scope deal and not the big about deal that they have been talking about for a long time. >> colin, are you at all surprised that john boehner has been sidelined at th
and let's focus on spending not taxes. that is where the problem is. >> there's disagreement over what colin just said, the president seems to be dealing from a position of strength, is he likely to get concessions that he needs to get the plan through or is this simply about revenues? >> this is mostly about revenues at this point, i think any deal that you will see the next day will be very narrow in scope. we will mostly deal with the issue of revenues and it will show...
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we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. >> after meeting with the president and treasury secretary, congressional leaders headed back to the capital without a deal. nancy pelosi insists some progress was made. disgorge by reports the would not be a deal todaythe dow closed down. the president did not make any new offers. congress should least extend tax cuts for everyone making $250,000 or less, and extend long-term unemployment benefits. democrats said have enough votes in the house and senate to pass the president also version of a short-term plan, but it is up to republicans in the house to call a vote. >> in the case of the speaker, i don't refuse to hold a vote per one of the key players, chris van halle, ranking democrat and house budget committee says he understands the public frustration -- hollen, ranking democrat and house budget committee, says he understands the public frustration. today the house speaker said he will no
we are now at the point where in just four days, every american's tax rates are scheduled to go up by law. every american paycheck will considerably smaller. that would be the wrong thing to do. >> after meeting with the president and treasury secretary, congressional leaders headed back to the capital without a deal. nancy pelosi insists some progress was made. disgorge by reports the would not be a deal todaythe dow closed down. the president did not make any new offers. congress should...
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but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win for republicans, but if those tax cuts ended up getting branded as obama's tax cuts that he passed after we went over the fiscal cliff, it then loses whatever upside there was for republicans, except, and we have to mention this, for republicans vulnerable to primary challenges, there's obviously a lot of anxiety about being, you know, the first republican in 20 years to vote for a tax increase. i think that's the big fear, that it's been so long. republicans haven't cast this kind of vote. you don't want to be the first one to do it. >> yeah, and charles, we're told the democrats may be waiting
but the danger for them is that these stopped being the bush tax cuts and become the obama tax cuts, right? i think that's what conservatives and republicans should be most worried about from a long-term political perspective right now. i mean, in a sense, they have sort of -- they have won a particular policy battle in the sense that most of the bush tax cuts, both parties believe should be extended. right? we're talking about 97%, 98% of the bush tax cuts. you could say that's a policy win...
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heven days for the white house and congressional leaders to reach a budget deal to avoid tax increases for nearly every american. president obama is on vacation in hawaii, and that's where we find nancy cordes tonight. nancy, what can you tell us? >> well, jim, still no conversations today between owmocrats and republicans on how to avert the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he would essentially dare house and senate republicans to oppose. his legislation would likely extend the bush-era tax cuts for households making less than 250,000 a year. it might also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset for, say, six or eight months, the indiscriminate across-the-board spending cuts that are set to go into effect on january 1. yis bill would also try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax that duds up hitting so many middle class families, and preventing a mbg scheduled drop-off in thd
heven days for the white house and congressional leaders to reach a budget deal to avoid tax increases for nearly every american. president obama is on vacation in hawaii, and that's where we find nancy cordes tonight. nancy, what can you tell us? >> well, jim, still no conversations today between owmocrats and republicans on how to avert the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he...
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lou: let's start with the idea taxes that this president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is a heck ofn initial bargaining position, isn't it.> >> the president talks about tax rates.te he wants tax rate increases and he converted into dollars.x rev the real question is can you raise tax revenues.se the only way that we will raise enough revenues toet us out of trouble is private sectorsetor growth. tas you will not have private sectoc growth if you're saraying thate you're going too raise their health care costs or energy costs or labor costs. going t people aroe going to invest. job you are going to find that job creation is unique. american businesses want aess io president to succeed. i didn't vote for him, but hisey success is tied to my success. t conversely, his success is tied to the success of american bs business there ought to be some common ground here. i'm just not seeing it yet. youh lou: what do you think of the idea that it doesn't ceos from companies show that the wte house to talk big with the big guys, but small business thatf creates most these cut
lou: let's start with the idea taxes that this president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that is a heck ofn initial bargaining position, isn't it.> >> the president talks about tax rates.te he wants tax rate increases and he converted into dollars.x rev the real question is can you raise tax revenues.se the only way that we will raise enough revenues toet us out of trouble is private sectorsetor growth. tas you will not have private sectoc growth if you're saraying thate you're going...
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suspected of involvement in the death of lawyer sergey magnitsky he died in custody during a massive tax fraud investigation three years ago russian president vladimir putin though says the u.s. should look at its own record before criticizing others for human rights violations . that our us partners and their lawmakers say they're concerned about human rights in our prisons and that's fine of course but there are plenty of issues they have themselves abu ghraib and guantanamo where for years people have been detained without charge it's inconceivable to prisoners walk around in chains like in the middle ages legalized torture inside their own country if something like that happened here it would cause an international outcry and all remains quiet in the u.s. we've heard plenty of promises to close guantanamo but it's still there it's still operating maybe there is still torture going on there secret cia prisons has anyone been brought to account and they're pointing at our problems well thank you we're aware of that making this the ground for passing anti russian laws it's something abs
suspected of involvement in the death of lawyer sergey magnitsky he died in custody during a massive tax fraud investigation three years ago russian president vladimir putin though says the u.s. should look at its own record before criticizing others for human rights violations . that our us partners and their lawmakers say they're concerned about human rights in our prisons and that's fine of course but there are plenty of issues they have themselves abu ghraib and guantanamo where for years...
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leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporter: well, and don, we should probably say where our senate majority leader harry reid and senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, because now all eyes turn to the senate. they're set to come back to town on the 27th. that is thursday. and at this point there are a number of options for some sort of bill that senate majority leader harry reid could put on the floor, but right now it appears democrats in the white house are pushing for something that still concentrates on making sure that income tax rates for those making a quarter million dollars or less don't go up. that said, it's really hard to see how at that rate senator mcconnell might allow some republican senators to support it or that some republican senators would even want to jump on board with that and even harder to see how a bill like that is something that house speaker john boehner would
leaving washington, president obama urged congress to pass a mini plan that would preserve middle class tax rates. brianna keilar joins us live from hawaii. what do we think will happen as the holiday week rolls out? >> reporter: well, and don, we should probably say where our senate majority leader harry reid and senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, because now all eyes turn to the senate. they're set to come back to town on the 27th. that is thursday. and at this...